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Re: Housing Minister: Senator Terry Le Main
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2008, 11:38:26 AM »
It is a shame, I bet Senator Le Main entered politics with good intention.

Unfortunately he has allowed himself to be used as a bully boy for the oligarchy (his moral compass is not controlled by a strong mind), used within states debate to disrupt and mislead, especially when something of importance contrary to the oligarchy is brought for debate.

He will soon become part of history and be quickly forgotten (Sorry if my words are harsh Senator Le Main, in truth, it is how I perceive you).
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Re: Housing Minister: Senator Terry Le Main
« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2008, 03:16:00 PM »
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Re: Housing Minister: Senator Terry Le Main
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2008, 01:26:41 PM »
This man shoul bow out now, he will not get my vote.

He is a bully

He was the  first politician to raise a voice against Stuart Syvret during the delivery of his now infamous Christmas Message.

He should be ashamed of  being the Housing Minister that saw the era dawn when young Jersey people could no longer aspire to become homeowners.

He should be ashamed of not knowing exactly how many units of accomodation are owned by offshore investors.

He should be ashamed of allowing social housing stock to fall into disrepair whilst millions were salted away into a rainy day fund.

This man has had his day........bow out now!

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Re: Housing Minister: Senator Terry Le Main
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2008, 01:31:14 PM »
He is so far up a local property developers erse, he is known as, "Toe-nails Le Main", in certain circles.

His toe-nails are all that remain visible.

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Re: Housing Minister: Senator Terry Le Main
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2008, 03:17:56 PM »
This is completly true, I was there, I heard Terry Le Main say to a good friend of mine who had a leaning towards a political future.

Get in, Join up, the wages are'nt bad and all those lovely foriegn trips, get elected you will have a great time.

I never quite felt the same about him, after that.

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Re: Housing Minister: Senator Terry Le Main
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2008, 04:42:19 PM »
It's absolutely amazing that such a low calibre person could end up being in politics.  Roll on the election. Some big changes are ahead...

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Re: Housing Minister: Senator Terry Le Main
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2008, 12:57:33 AM »
Whatever one thinks about Terry, there is a very strong case for him ceasing to be Housing Minister after the election.  Nine years is long enough.

Something to ask of the candidates?

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Re: Housing Minister: Senator Terry Le Main
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2008, 08:08:18 AM »
Terry – Tel Boy – le Main

Ah – where to start?

Terry Le Main could be held up as the prime example of what is fundamentally dysfunctional (you’ll have to get someone to explain it to you, Tel) in Jersey politics.

He epitomises the false and misleading triumph of style over content that is pervasive amongst our clowns.

I know – “style” - is not word one would naturally associate with Tel Boy, but let me explain.

Those ‘old-school’ Jersey politicians learnt a very, very long time ago that you could be utterly vacuous, have not a thought – let alone an original thought – between your ears, be hopelessly incompetent, devoid of principle – and generally be the kind of character that would fit right in with the chimpanzees’ tea-party that is the States of Jersey.

As long as you had a ‘pitch’, an ‘angle’ – a fake persona you could project to the public; manufactured in such a way as to appeal to a sufficient cohort of voters.

True enough – different politicians have adopted different approaches – but the essential methodology remains.

Take Pierre Horsefall, for example – a man widely know throughout the civil service as “Plausibility Pierre”.

His Unique Selling Point was the carefully crafted gravitas, bespoke appearance and polished oratory of the text-book “Elder Statesman”.

But underneath that oh so credible exterior was a hollow man, with not a thought of his own in his head, and who just did whatever he was told by God – AKA, Colin Powell.

So whilst Horsfall always, always looked and sounded the part – the reality is that he is almost certainly the worst leader Jersey has ever had.

So what of Tel Boy? His carefully calculated USP has been that of the “Man Of The People”. He’s always possessed a certain animal cunning, so he turned his deficiencies into advantages. The ignorance, the inarticulacy, the stupidity – the complete in ability to adhere to a consistent set of polices – all gross inadequacies.

So Tel Boy’s tactics were to willingly adopt the cloak of “I’m just an ordinary working bloke – I may be an inarticulate, directionless nincompoop – “but I’m on your side,”

Terry Le Main – cheeky-chappy – lovable rogue – “Working Class Hero”.

He has sold this fake persona to the voting public for decades. And in many respects, he and others like him, are worse than the overtly establishment politicians. At least with them you know what you’re getting.

With Le Main – you see the bumbling half-wit – acting the “ordinary man”; giving it the “Working Class Hero” bit for all he’s worth – yet then spending each term of Office stamping on the ordinary people who brought into all this rubbish and elected him in the expectation that he’d look after the concerns of the working classes.

But – in truth – when you look at his voting record over the many years he has been in the States, he has consistently been one of the most Right-wing, pro-establishment, anti-working-person politicians the States has seen in 30 years.

That’s his biggest failing – the sheer, unembarrassed fakery of the public persona he adopts – in contrast with the neo-Reganite politics he pursues when in power.

So when considering the bumbling imbecile that is Terry Le Main – look beneath that “Working Class Hero” image.

For underneath you’ll find the typical Right-wing, short-termist Jersey establishment character.

Stuart

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« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2008, 08:17:42 AM »
So you don't like him Stuart!

I never understood why he has been running housing for so flaming long.  It has failed on many occasions under his leadership.

The biggest goof so far is the misleading information he had about outside ownership of Dandara G-plan flats.

And now we wonder why flats are so dam expensive for local people....

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« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2008, 09:00:54 AM »
G Plan flats not built as homes for life, not built as family homes for qualified  people but as homes for the people that the population office will allow in, who will dwell in the g plan flats long enough to get a few years on their CV and move on - or long enough to climb the career ladder and buy a home out in the country.............................mean while thanks to Terry, Freddie and Frankie etc .............qualified people will rent or move off island, or bight the bullet and buy a poxy g plan flat and then work hard to keep their head above water  ..............That I am sorryto say is the state that Jersey is in today...............So when he bows out of politics he can look back at his great legacy.........................and look up at  the carbuncles that he has left us with.....................enter Freddie...but hey thats for another day!

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Re: Housing Minister: Senator Terry Le Main
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2008, 11:42:03 PM »
How do you rate Senator Terry Le Main?

 >:( he is just sooooo rude and the rest of my opinion isn't fit to publish, lol, http://wordpress.com/tag/minister-terry-le-main/ this link will put you in the picture.

Lets just say I think he has proved he should not be a Minister. Teflon isn't the word for it.

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Re: Housing Minister: Senator Terry Le Main
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2008, 10:17:03 AM »
Terry's recent announcement that the property market stall can be helped by immediately lowering qualification age is a very inept decision.

The unintended side effect will be that a lot more people will be able to apply for States Social Housing. This is not necessarily a bad thing from the point of view of fairness, and treating tax paying citizen's alike (rather than treating some as second class) would seem to be a positive step, but it seems (from the JEP report) that this consequence is something that has not been considered by Terry.

Questions that come to mind: What would the extra demand be on Social Housing? What is the waiting list now, and by how much might it be increased? Can the Housing Department cope with both the provision, and providing for the rent rebate scheme of those qualified but unable to rent anywhere except the private sector? These are questions which need to be addressed and answered. At the moment, they do not even seem to have been considered.

The assumption that reducing the qualification period will let more of the island's richer residents into the property market, and this will therefore bring down prices is also questionable. Given the restrictions on bank lending at the present time, and the loss of Jersey Home Loans for new mortgages (which is I suspect already having an impact, as their rates were lowest), can we be sure that this strategy will work?

This announcement like the decision that Tony Blair made (without consultation) to take young offenders to cash point machines for on the spot fines. A snap sound-bite, uttered in haste, repented of in leisure.

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Re: Housing Minister: Senator Terry Le Main
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2008, 11:32:08 AM »
All you younger couples want houses, with gardens and at least three bedrooms.! This is a well aired subject. Most of us oldies started with run down, in need of work dumps.

I find it more than strange than in a stagnant housing market, the only option is for developers to drop the prices of their overpriced flats and houses. " Hay ho No " over the horizon, screaming to the rescue come the dreaded Terry's. Le Suer and Le Maine who suddenly have this incredible need to underwrite ( with taxpayers money ) the purchase of property ( shared equity plan ). As the banks are not lending, and large specialist mortgage companies are not allowed to operate freely in Jersey, getting a mortgage is very difficult, the only way for property prices to go is down.

Advocate Phillip Sinel, in his published letter to the JEP  underlined the fact, that property transactions have fallen in the Royal court on Fridays . Senator Terry Le Suer is quoted as saying the treasury may be as much as £7 million down, due to the loss in stamp duty on  property transactions.

So the two Terry’s are making sure that Dandara, and other developers are well looked after, so it seems. Why ?

If the quallies were dropped to say five years or less, it would open the door for the middle rich who have extended family working here to buy property.

Any of you think it would help the young who are trying to get on the property ladder, please think again. It would up demand which would up prices further.


The qualification period should be increased, sadly, the property being built by Dandara should stay unsold until the prices drop, or the States get an excellent discount for bulk buying them and then setting up a system for the first time buyers who are able to take advantage of the discount the States have achieved.

Taking the other route, whereby the two Terries are raiding the public purse, by purchasing on shared equity at the full price? and then possible dropping the qualification period ( to keep up demand ) makes me wonder if they haven't got shares in the large developers on Jersey. There can be no other reason can there?

Boatyboy.
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Re: Housing Minister: Senator Terry Le Main
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2008, 12:17:26 PM »
Spot on Boatyboy.

Le Main is a clown. He automatically assumes that everyone gaining their, "Quallies", will want to buy,(or be able to afford), property.

He obviously didn,t do much homework on the problem, but simply danced when his strings were pulled.

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« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2008, 12:30:33 PM »
All you younger couples want houses, with gardens and at least three bedrooms.! This is a well aired subject. Most of us oldies started with run down, in need of work dumps.

I find it more than strange than in a stagnant housing market, the only option is for developers to drop the prices of their overpriced flats and houses. " Hay ho No " over the horizon, screaming to the rescue come the dreaded Terry's. Le Suer and Le Maine who suddenly have this incredible need to underwrite ( with taxpayers money ) the purchase of property ( shared equity plan ). As the banks are not lending, and large specialist mortgage companies are not allowed to operate freely in Jersey, getting a mortgage is very difficult, the only way for property prices to go is down.

Advocate Phillip Sinel, in his published letter to the JEP  underlined the fact, that property transactions have fallen in the Royal court on Fridays . Senator Terry Le Suer is quoted as saying the treasury may be as much as £7 million down, due to the loss in stamp duty on  property transactions.

So the two Terry’s are making sure that Dandara, and other developers are well looked after, so it seems. Why ?

If the quallies were dropped to say five years or less, it would open the door for the middle rich who have extended family working here to buy property.

Any of you think it would help the young who are trying to get on the property ladder, please think again. It would up demand which would up prices further.


The qualification period should be increased, sadly, the property being built by Dandara should stay unsold until the prices drop, or the States get an excellent discount for bulk buying them and then setting up a system for the first time buyers who are able to take advantage of the discount the States have achieved.

Taking the other route, whereby the two Terries are raiding the public purse, by purchasing on shared equity at the full price? and then possible dropping the qualification period ( to keep up demand ) makes me wonder if they haven't got shares in the large developers on Jersey. There can be no other reason.

Boatyboy.
           
                                            

Propping up the property prices has been going on for too many years. Planning is by personality, building permission for the big developers is no problem, but local people with a little plot cannot get planning passed.

The properties that have been built are in the main not built with local families in mind, but for those working in the finance industry and investors, shoe box holes. I did an article about this that you can read here if you want to http://www.lindacorby.com/page4.php

I think one of the worst things is the way housing property has been sold off to housing trusts instead of to the local people living in them who should in my opinion have been given the right to buy, using the monies they had paid over the years in rent as their deposits as one can in England.  This is two fold, because housing are still paying rent rebate to people renting properties sold by housing for next to nothing from housing trusts, and housing wouldn't have been paying these rent rebates out now if they had been sold in the manner I stated above.

 Housing would actually have made money a lot of money if you take the rent rebates into account, and obviously made home owners out of some less well off people in the island, in consequence this would have helped alleviate the housing shortage problem for a lot of people.

However, it would obviously go against the grain for TLM to do anything to actually help those working people who he professes to represent when standing for election, he would far rather help greedy landlords. I wonder why! ???