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Offline danrok

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Re: Housing Minister: Senator Terry Le Main
« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2008, 12:33:10 PM »
Reducing the number of years required to get housing qualifications, will not fix the real problem, which is that the lenders don't have much money to lend.

Even if it does have a good effect, it will be a short-term fix which will create an even worse long-term problem, that being that ordinary locals will struggle even more to afford a home.

Do Le Main and Le Sueur care about what the situation will be in 10 years time?  Seems unlikely given that they will have long retired, and won't be the ones who have to fix any mess they have created.

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Re: Housing Minister: Senator Terry Le Main
« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2008, 12:41:31 PM »
TLM has too many chums,(or he thinks he has), who are property developers.

Lets not forget, TLM, has all the scruples you would expect of a second hand car salesman. (No offence intended toward folk trying to eke out a living in the car trade).

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Re: Housing Minister: Senator Terry Le Main
« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2008, 07:46:58 AM »
wasn't there some fiasco a few years back when Midland bank were going to forclose of Dandara, then all of a sudden housing bought a load of flats from Dandara for the "housing stock" which is why we have states housing on the waterfront?


I was contacted by a representative from Dandara after mentioning this on BBC talkback this morning to inform me that they have not sold any property to the housing department, so this is misinformation.  Although a number of people have told me this on the Jersey grapevine it is incorrect and I have and will inform them of such, I will apologised to Dandara and Senator Terry Le Main for mentioning this misinformation on talkback, and will also notify BBC Radio of such.

I have investigated further and the property rented by housing on the Waterfront was built by a French company and not Dandara.

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Re: Housing Minister: Senator Terry Le Main
« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2008, 08:55:03 AM »
I was contacted by a representative from Dandara after mentioning this on BBC talkback this morning to inform me that they have not sold any property to the housing department, so this is misinformation.  Although a number of people have told me this on the Jersey grapevine it is incorrect and I have and will inform them of such, I will apologised to Dandara and Senator Terry Le Main for mentioning this misinformation on talkback, and will also notify BBC Radio of such.

I have investigated further and the property rented by housing on the Waterfront was built by a French company and not Dandara.

I pointed this out on this forum a while back.  I don't know where people ever got the idea that Dandara had any involvement in the "West of Albert" site.

Those blue and white apartments were built by Spie Batignolles - this was written on a hoarding sign in plain view, for about 2 years.

The only other existing apartment block, at the Waterfront, was/is owned and built by Charles Le Quesne builders.  That's the one with a Penthouse on top, which I think is still vacant.

Dandara have one plot down there, which is being built on now.  They acquired that plot via some exchange deal for land they bought from Des Pas Holdings(?) at the La Collette reclamation site.  The States of Jersey had no choice but to "give" them the Waterfront plot, because they had to have the land at La Collette.  Just like a game of monopoly...

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Re: Housing Minister: Senator Terry Le Main
« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2008, 09:47:46 AM »
I pointed this out on this forum a while back.  I don't know where people ever got the idea that Dandara had any involvement in the "West of Albert" site.

Those blue and white apartments were built by Spie Batignolles - this was written on a hoarding sign in plain view, for about 2 years.

The only other existing apartment block, at the Waterfront, was/is owned and built by Charles Le Quesne builders.  That's the one with a Penthouse on top, which I think is still vacant.

Dandara have one plot down there, which is being built on now.  They acquired that plot via some exchange deal for land they bought from Des Pas Holdings(?) at the La Collette reclamation site.  The States of Jersey had no choice but to "give" them the Waterfront plot, because they had to have the land at La Collette.  Just like a game of monopoly...

Thanks danrok

Unfourtunatly I am not perfect, lol, am going to have to work on that one. I will never open my mouth again without caring out full research and having the proof for anything I say first in my hands.  But I do get very upset that our children are having to leave the island due to the state of things.

In case you didn't here my ideas/questions on Radio Jersey I have now typed them out and below is the copy for you, if you have any ideas or comments on mine let me know. There has to be a way we can stop the mass exiduse of Jersey Children/people in general. I for one really do care.

1.   Tax relief on mortgage interest needs to go up to a much higher realistic level to support for the first time buyer. (Tax relief could be capped and less mortgage interest relief given to the luxury priced properties to balance things out.)

2.   Restrict the future demand through a controlled immigration policy. (Restrict the huge population growth that has is allowed to enter the island, this just has to be capped at a much lower level.)

3.   Promote construction by locally based construction companies. (Not the likes of Dandara.)

4.   Encourage self build. (Take the GST off building materials for self builders and small local builders.)

5.   Lower the cost of conveyancing and permit more flexible mortgages. (For example: The ones were you can use your savings against your borrowings to reduce your interest payments should be introduced into the island especially on a States loan scheme.)

6.   Sell off existing States Housing to tenants at reduced rates. Use something along the lines of the ‘Right to Buy’ in England were the deposit equals the rent that has already been paid by the tenant to the Housing Department. (A penalty clause for let’s say ten years should be put in place to stop speculators trying to cash in and resell the property too quickly at full value.)

7.   Rezone the land necessary for local people to self build. (Not just rezone for the big development companies who build undesirable clusters of properties in Town or in the countryside and will make yet more unsightly carbuncle ghettos that are not good family homes for local people.  The big development companies produce prohibitally expensive shoe boxes that no local family wants!) 

8.   Housing should not be selling the older housing stock (virtually giving away) at a reduce rate to housing trusts, who then charge higher rents to tenants than housing especially as housing still end up paying the difference back in rent rebates. (Had the properties that Senator Terry le Main allowed to go to housing trusts been sold to the tenants at this reduced rate instead then I feel everyone would have a big shock at how much money the States would have saved and actually made. I dare any States member to tally the facts and figures of this one up and do a report on it using the time frame of Senator Terry Le Mains reign as Housing Minister. Plus of course the figures on how many first time buyers this would have accommodated.)

9.   Stop planning by personality, and cut the price or make it free to apply for planning permission/appeals for the local small builders and those who are applying for first time buyer self build properties on their own land.


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Re: Housing Minister: Senator Terry Le Main
« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2008, 09:50:38 AM »

1.   Tax relief on mortgage interest needs to go up to a much higher realistic level to support for the first time buyer. (Tax relief could be capped and less mortgage interest relief given to the luxury priced properties to balance things out.)


Unfortunately, under 20 means 20, means tax relief on mortgages is largely falling out of the system completely, which is another reason why houses are not selling so much!

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Re: Housing Minister: Senator Terry Le Main
« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2008, 09:56:53 AM »
Unfortunately, under 20 means 20, means tax relief on mortgages is largely falling out of the system completely, which is another reason why houses are not selling so much!

Your right, but it isn't right and so many people are really going to suffer through it!

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Re: Housing Minister: Senator Terry Le Main
« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2008, 11:28:12 AM »
Hi  Linda,
I know Terry as he used to be a customer of mine in the hire car business at maufant & he was a Gud Bloke,
but some of the people who work under him are absolute As**les as they threatened to evict me (a true Jerseyman who used to go to school with your husband Brian) over the phone if I dident vacate a states premises quickly enuf, and wouldent give me a permanant parking permit for the new place they forced me  to move to,
then i found out you cant pay  rent by credit card at CLM House and everything else seems to be against you even after complying with their wishes,
the premisis I moved out of, had major structural faults which dident affect me but they cant re-let the property now because of health & safety with out huge costs to make the place safe, and its been uninhabited now for 6 months now where i could have been still paying rent for it, so more fool them
best regards
p.s. hope you still have your horses

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Re: Housing Minister: Senator Terry Le Main
« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2008, 01:17:32 PM »
Hi  Linda,
I know Terry as he used to be a customer of mine in the hire car business at maufant & he was a Gud Bloke,
but some of the people who work under him are absolute As**les as they threatened to evict me (a true Jerseyman who used to go to school with your husband Brian) over the phone if I dident vacate a states premises quickly enuf, and wouldent give me a permanant parking permit for the new place they forced me  to move to,
then i found out you cant pay  rent by credit card at CLM House and everything else seems to be against you even after complying with their wishes,
the premisis I moved out of, had major structural faults which dident affect me but they cant re-let the property now because of health & safety with out huge costs to make the place safe, and its been uninhabited now for 6 months now where i could have been still paying rent for it, so more fool them
best regards
p.s. hope you still have your horses


Hi

Trying to figure out who you are as is Brian? You can email me privately at linda_corby@yahoo.co.uk or phone if you like, we are the only Corby's in the book. It is 747039 if you want to speak to us.

I no longer have any horses, still love them though.

Which property were you living in with major structural faults, and why on earth did they threatened to evict you, was it because of the property's stuctual faults, just wondering.


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Re: Housing Minister: Senator Terry Le Main
« Reply #39 on: January 30, 2009, 07:43:12 AM »
AS you are probably aware good people, Senator Terry Le Main is to be a guest on the BBC talkback programme this coming Sunday.

Who else I thought, a member of the States who is knowledgeable on housing issues to add balance, but no, for some reason the BBC have decided that he will have the stage to Himself.

It got me thinking, get Paxman over with a full brief, no chance, so what questions would be reasonable to ask the man thats in charge of housing ?

Should intrepid reporter voiceforchildren get the job of interviewing, should Dandara be invited to field a team as at the St. Helier town hall assembly.

Lets get to the real issues ?

bb

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Re: Housing Minister: Senator Terry Le Main
« Reply #40 on: January 30, 2009, 11:06:17 AM »
AS you are probably aware good people, Senator Terry Le Main is to be a guest on the BBC talkback programme this coming Sunday.
bb

Thanks BB - should be great fun !
He is bound to make one of two real gaffes - a la GW Bush
He will entertain us all and we could do with a laugh
My officers - my department - my officers - I am the housing minister - we need hundreds more house - we have a long waiting list - we need to build, build and build, but not in my backyard - Frank Walker was a very nice guy -
My developer friends tell me that we need to lower the qualies period to 10 sorry 9 sorry 8 years and still counting
They need to sell their houses - I am all for that - and so are my officers and my department - there are no UK investors buying property here ( and I am not Comical Ali ) - there is no recession - Please visit my website iamanicebloke.com

Actually Terry The Man isn't such a bad bloke but he is somewhat passed it - needs replacement


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Re: Housing Minister: Senator Terry Le Main
« Reply #41 on: January 30, 2009, 12:33:39 PM »
Terry Le Main doesn't have much of a back garden to build in, and the States have already just built lots of houses and flats within spitting distance of his house.  He lives in-between Le Squez and Le Marais.

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Re: Housing Minister: Senator Terry Le Main
« Reply #42 on: January 31, 2009, 04:57:30 AM »
Proposal for Terry

Knock down the buildings at the waterfront and flatten the whole waterfront area, then grass it over
Take the few Jersey cows left from their various fields and place all of them on this grass
Then build the hundreds of houses needed in the fields for the people on Terry's waiting list

The cows will be a great advert for tourists arriving at the harbour
To make it even more attractive the cows could be dyed in various pastel colours ( as long a the milk stays white ! )
The cows will be all in one place and therefore milking them will be efficient. We could even have the tourists pay for milking them ! Photos could be sold them doing so etc etc with slogans like : Silly old cow milking Jersey old cow....

There could be a "name the cow" competition in schools and the beautiful animals could provide the perfect destresser for the thousands of Freddy's Esplanade Quarter office workers. The many finance houses which will have moved there will not have to go far for the milk in their coffees !
Of course we would have to make sure none of the cows wander off into the sunken road tunnel as even one could cause a long blockage in the free flowing traffic (and their milk might dilute when the tunnel floods )  I am sure this plan could work well and the spin offs are endless. Pity the abbatoir has been converted as they would have been so conveniently close by... I suppose we could always burn the carcasses in the nearby insanerator as there will be days when it lays idle

We could still have cows in the country but of the West centre / Milton Keynes type i.e sculptures ones
Advantage : no food or much space needed as they don't move. No milking and they can stay out in all weather
Again various colours could be used - perhaps a different colour for each parish and to match all the houses being build

In the meantime hundreds, if not thousands of locals or anyone one else could live comfortable in their country houses viewing the stone cows from their windows. Lasso throwing competitions could be organised at weekends and stone cowboys could be placed on strategic point for decoration
Jersey's seagulls won't know what's hit them ! Jersey's Irish developers will be happy providing much needed employment for foreign sorry local building workers
It will help Jersey emerging quicker from the (non existing) recession and money will be coming out of ears again, A win win situation and Happy days are here again !
Let me hear your views and ideas folks !

P.S No, I haven't been smoking any funny cigarettes ! Only had a bottle of red wine last night. It has this amazing effect ...
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Re: Housing Minister: Senator Terry Le Main
« Reply #43 on: January 31, 2009, 06:18:28 AM »
Greenfields more cows if only Moot, that wine must have been good. Its an old Jersey farmers saying, I’ll sleep on it, and as we all have, my sub conscious developed some thoughts . Lets have a closer look at this whole Sunday morning talkback with Terry Le Main tomorrow.

The first thing that’s bugs me is the structure of the show, why have the BBC not got an opposing view from an informed member of the house. Jerseys observers are not as well informed as some politicians, who are privy to deeper detail and informed trends not realised outside the assembly.

OK,  import Kirsty Tucker is a bright girl, but will she be truly supported by Mathew Price and the management of the BBC to give us ( licence fee payers and shareholders in Jersey ) a deep, interesting and in depth look at why ? the housing Minister carry’s out his policies, and the reasons for the policies.

Lets not get complicated, I get confused ! some  questions I feel need to be answered all in a  row.

Why did housing get into bed with trusts ( passing responsibility) when its such a small island with a fully staffed housing department ? How come Terry Le Main did not know about a significant number of flats being sold to those outside the island, when as part of the permission to build (as is common in the UK ) a certain number of new build properties must be for the local market. ? Why was this not the case here to help the local people. Why has the housing Minister not demanded the release of the East. Qtr Waterfront public report as it also contains, a large amount of new housing (apartments) which will need housing approval.? Has the minister read the ( still confidential ) report along with other ministers.  Since the housing Trusts have diminished the work load at the House. Dept. how have the staff numbers diminished in his dept. Is he happy with WEB quangos performance, or would he like more of a say in the type of development they are offering.

Is he in favour of continued growth, or does he feel the island will soon be loosing its charm through over development. Who monitors the Housing Trusts performance, who are they accountable to ? Themselves maybe. Why is he leading the charge to bring down quallies which will keep prices sky high, and discriminate against existing islanders even those who at the time they came to live here accepted the period of residency before purchase was possible ?

Boatyboy
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Re: Housing Minister: Senator Terry Le Main
« Reply #44 on: February 01, 2009, 06:23:42 AM »
There is a very good interview with deputy sean power concerning ann street development at

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