Author Topic: Geneaology now - hopefully something else later  (Read 1925 times)

Razzard

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Geneaology now - hopefully something else later
« on: November 12, 2008, 04:09:08 PM »
Off topic tonight I know but I made this post because when I was skipping through the Deputies boards this poor woman didn't have a single topic or post next to her name. I felt sorry for her. She is the unknown woman of Planet Jersey!

I think TonytheProf and Sheriff Forskitt might have a take on this but as I recall it the Gallichan's are decended from the north of Spain. They came here in about 1100 and the first recorded Gallichan name appears in public records from 1123.

This is how it all started;

During the 9th and 10th centuries, the counts of Galicia gave fluctuating obedience to their nominal sovereign, and Normans/Vikings occasionally raided the coasts. The Towers of Catoira (2) were built as a system of fortifications to stop the Viking raids on Santiago de Compostela.

In 1063, Ferdinand I of Castile and León divided his kingdom among his sons. Galicia was allotted to Garcia II of Galicia. In 1072, it was forcibly reannexed by Garcia's brother Alfonso VI of Castile, and from that time Galicia remained part of the Kingdom of Castile and Leon, although under differing degrees of self-government.

Now come on Juliette get online. You couldn't have a softer landing then that. Even gave you a couple of iffy dates there allowing for a swift correction!

Offline Pomme de terre

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Re: Geneaology now - hopefully something else later
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2008, 04:34:40 PM »
Raz, she's not looking to be re-elected any time soon.

She's accountable to the tiny parish of St Mary only, not us PJ-ers down here in town.

If she comes on here, I'll eat my keyboard.

Razzard

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Re: Geneaology now - hopefully something else later
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2008, 05:07:12 PM »
Raz, she's not looking to be re-elected any time soon.

She's accountable to the tiny parish of St Mary only, not us PJ-ers down here in town.

If she comes on here, I'll eat my keyboard.

She's got a nice genealogy though.....

I'm half irish catholic half poilsh jew!

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Re: Geneaology now - hopefully something else later
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2008, 02:05:43 AM »
I like the theory of self government! Could you explain it??
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Razzard

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Re: Geneaology now - hopefully something else later
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2008, 02:59:01 AM »
I like the theory of self government! Could you explain it??

Self government comes out of the 'make it up we go along' school of management.

If something is not to your liking then crush it.

If you want to do something dodgy, do it anyway then get somebody to lie on your behalf.

If another government question you on your actions deny them and tell the accuser to mind their own business.

You catch my drift?

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Re: Geneaology now - hopefully something else later
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2008, 03:14:36 AM »
Rather like the devolution of Jersey then?
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Razzard

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Re: Geneaology now - hopefully something else later
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2008, 03:41:18 AM »
I used to sit on the front porch at Beechfields sipping G&T with my sadly passed away buddy Peter Crill. He was very clear about Jersey's constitutional position and its relationship to the crown.

What most of the pro-independence lobby fail to pick up on is that as crown dependency we have a snowball in hell's chance of unwinding 800 years of law and everyday practice. But I guess before 1204 there was different structure. I just don't know anything about it.

Why?

You want to set up a nation state right here?

Guess until that's done you can't have a national gallery. Well actually you could but other 'proper' countries would think we were jumped up, self aggrandising and a touch deluded, pompous even.


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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2008, 03:57:21 AM »
I don't think other "proper" countries would be alone!
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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2008, 05:35:16 AM »
I used to sit on the front porch at Beechfields sipping G&T with my sadly passed away buddy Peter Crill. He was very clear about Jersey's constitutional position and its relationship to the crown.

In "A Little Brief Authority", Peter Crill describes being part of an offical States delegation to the Home Office regarding the legislation change to permit homosexuality as legal in the Island. The Home Office official introduced himself, and began with "Well, are you going to change the law, or shall we legislate for you?" As Peter put it - "collapse of stout party". That anecdote makes it pretty clear how limited our independence would be if the crunch came, a point made by Philip Bailhache, then AG, albeit in more sober legalese, quoted by Crill in the same book.

Regarding Gallichan, Bailleine - in the 1940 Bulletin article on Jersey surnames, writes:

"Gallichan is an interesting example of the need of going back to the earliest form of a name. One writer derives it from two Latin words, gallus, a cock, and cano, I sing. Perhaps he guessed that the first Monsieur Gallichan was famous for rising at cock-crow. But in 1269 and 1306 the name was spelt Le Galicien, showing that he came from Galicia, probably the one in Spain. We hear more than once of Spanish traders settling in Jersey. "



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Re: Geneaology now - hopefully something else later
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2008, 10:13:39 AM »
It may have escaped some of you that Juliette is not standing as a Deputy!

It may also have escaped you that she is the new Connetable of St Mary....WAKE UP FOLKS!

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Re: Geneaology now - hopefully something else later
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2008, 10:35:07 AM »
It may have escaped some of you that Juliette is not standing as a Deputy!

It may also have escaped you that she is the new Connetable of St Mary....WAKE UP FOLKS!

OK cool. So she's a current States member and will be for the forseeable. You learn something every day. Then maybe she might like to make her views known to PJ members?

So far on her thread we've had geneaology, geography, history, law and culture and the lady hasn't said a word! I'm hoping for something else later......