Author Topic: Postal Vote Fraud  (Read 4934 times)

Online GeeGee

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Re: Postal Vote Fraud
« Reply #30 on: March 03, 2009, 09:14:04 AM »
Actually Gee Gee is a SHE, and she is not paranoid. However I wish I was because it would appear I would live longer.

Shiva, you must have a rolled up trouser leg, because it is almost impossible to know who are and who are not Freemasons save those at the top. Incidentally my late father was a FM, so I do know a bit about 'what goes on'.

Anyway we are losing the thread again, but what about lawyers, judges, police???

Southern and Pitman had a valid grievance over a stupid law, which they attempted to highlight in an unlawful way - not recommended, but with hindsight we all do silly things without thinking at times.

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Re: Postal Vote Fraud
« Reply #31 on: March 03, 2009, 10:11:51 AM »
Gee gee am i fool to wonder why
and i dont want to make you cry gee gee

but
They did not have a valid grievance they just had a grievance.
They broke the law.
I wish people would get over this "just being silly" crap. they broke the freaking law deliberately!
They failed to inform the voters they were doing so , they failed to own up to it until they were accused , at which point it became "a matter of "principal"
cojones!

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Re: Postal Vote Fraud
« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2009, 12:24:40 PM »
Southern and Pitman had a valid grievance over a stupid law, which they attempted to highlight in an unlawful way - not recommended, but with hindsight we all do silly things without thinking at times.

Speak for yourself, I have never been in court in my life.

I also do not agree with it being a stupid law.  There were over 60 people going for deputy in November and I do not recall appeals against the law by any of them. If it was silly I am sure a few would have spoken out.

It is pretty obvious that the JDA relies on postal votes and thats why they broke the law.
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Online GeeGee

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Re: Postal Vote Fraud
« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2009, 12:39:37 PM »
Oh you are back Extreme.

I did not mention anything about going to Court in my case, I was just making an observation about human nature. So you are 'Mr Squeaky Clean, Extreme'?

No such thing as perfect.

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Re: Postal Vote Fraud
« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2009, 12:43:55 PM »
I do not think you will find many people on the street agreeing with you that they were silly.  Maybe some die hard JDA fans but thats about it.   

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Re: Postal Vote Fraud
« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2009, 12:57:40 PM »
Gee, thanks Gee Gee - that piece about the masons has really given me something to think about............

Right, thought about it.  Thanks again.

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Re: Postal Vote Fraud
« Reply #36 on: March 03, 2009, 06:18:08 PM »
Southern and Pitman had a valid grievance over a stupid law, which they attempted to highlight in an unlawful way - not recommended, but with hindsight we all do silly things without thinking at times.

Big hairy dogs round ones Gee Gee. How much sight did they need? How many years had this law been in place and they knew fully about it then. No, this is plain and simple meditated lawbreaking aimed at getting themselves and other members of the JDA elected so that they can sit in a corner in the States disagreeing with anything that gets said and then pleading that ufo's exist, the media is out to get them and that a secret sect rules Jerseys overclass, plus others.

They are cheaters, Liars and Lawbreakers and should be thrown out of the states the same as they would be anywhere else in the world, cos they sure as hell don't have the guts to resign from office as many politicians in other countries would after facing lesser scandals.
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Offline Bentos

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Re: Postal Vote Fraud
« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2009, 02:04:31 AM »

I am still keen to learn why Comrade Geoff is no longer a teacher?


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Re: Postal Vote Fraud
« Reply #38 on: March 04, 2009, 05:47:56 AM »
Gee Gee

Don't make assumptions. The Jersey Masonic diary for each year can be found at the library. In you will find the members of very masonic lodge in the Island. Some Secret Society eh!

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Re: Postal Vote Fraud
« Reply #39 on: March 04, 2009, 06:05:55 AM »
I am still keen to learn why Comrade Geoff is no longer a teacher?


Maybe he is a member of the royal order of antediluvian buffaloes and its a secret?

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Re: Postal Vote Fraud
« Reply #40 on: March 04, 2009, 06:22:02 AM »
It would certainly explain the huge amounts of bulshit we have been seeing lately



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Offline Nellie Macon

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Re: Postal Vote Fraud
« Reply #41 on: March 04, 2009, 07:32:46 AM »
The amendment to the postal voting law came into effect in 2008.

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Re: Postal Vote Fraud
« Reply #42 on: March 04, 2009, 10:07:40 AM »
The amendment to the postal voting law came into effect in 2008.

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Offline Voltaire

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Re: Postal Vote Fraud
« Reply #43 on: March 04, 2009, 03:46:23 PM »
The amendment to the postal voting law came into effect in 2008.

Lodged 6th May and passed 10th June to be exact. A full five months to make their point, or work out that they should not do it. The LAW was passed 31 to 8. They took part in creating a law and then blatently broke and flouted that same law. They should immediatly loose their positions.

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Article 13

This article inserts a provision in the law that PPC believes is extremely significant and important. At present there is no restriction in the Law on candidates or their representatives assisting with the postal voting process. Candidates can, for example, assist electors to complete forms for postal voting, can take these to the Judicial Greffe and offer other assistance to enable people to obtain a postal vote. Although candidates may believe they are simply assisting electors in these circumstances, PPC is concerned that the current provision could be seen to interfere with the fairness of the election process. Any elector who has received significant assistance from a candidate or his or her representative to obtain a postal vote may feel, in some way, pressurised to vote for that candidate when the ballot paper is received from the Judicial Greffier.
This new Article would make it illegal for a candidate to assist an elector in completing the application form for a postal or pre poll vote. In addition is would make it illegal for candidates to deliver or cause to be delivered the forms to the Judicial Greffier. For the avoidance of doubt, paragraph (2) of the new Article makes it clear that a candidate or representative can still distribute blank forms to enable a person to apply for a postal or pre-poll vote but, with the new provisions, it would be illegal for the candidate to do anything further. It would, nevertheless, still be possible for staff, for example, in an old people’s home to assist residents to complete the necessary paperwork but this would distance the process from the candidate or his or her representative.
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Re: Postal Vote Fraud
« Reply #44 on: March 04, 2009, 03:51:56 PM »
Nice one Sam, back of the net!  Where did you get that extract from can I ask?