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Offline JungleDirector

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Will Jeremy pull through?
« on: January 14, 2009, 05:05:19 PM »
I would place this young man with a two others (Tadier and Wimberley) who I think will accomplish very little in the next 3 years.

My main reason is because their ideas are more personal as opposed to of more general public feeling.

Not only that but Jeremy has succumbed to aggression from the left and snubbing from the right more or less weeks after starting.

Perhaps it is time they did cut back the numbers and reduced the 53 in there? 

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Re: Will Jeremy pull through?
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2009, 03:08:17 AM »
The Tories intend to reduce the number of people in parliament by 60 after they win the next election.
Jersey should reduce the number of people in the states by about a similar number.Since all they do is reaffirm what the civil service tells them , why do we not deal directly with the mechanics and get rid of the oily rags?

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Re: Will Jeremy pull through?
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2009, 06:29:27 AM »
I just think some of these new people are useless and a awaste of money.  Already Geoff Southern wants the treasury minister to dip into tax payers money and give charity hand outs to Woolworth staff.  It appears that rico is a member of Time 4 Change.  I would like to see what deliveries Mr Tadier manages to get approved in the next 3 years.

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Re: Will Jeremy pull through?
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2009, 07:55:06 AM »
I just think some of these new people are useless and a awaste of money.  Already Geoff Southern wants the treasury minister to dip into tax payers money and give charity hand outs to Woolworth staff.  It appears that rico is a member of Time 4 Change.  I would like to see what deliveries Mr Tadier manages to get approved in the next 3 years.


Good god you havent even given the newbies a chance yet what a sweeping statement!
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Re: Will Jeremy pull through?
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2009, 01:05:24 PM »
I think we have heard enough up to now to tell whether they will be any good or not.

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Re: Will Jeremy pull through?
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2009, 04:22:18 PM »
Like what? Explain please
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Re: Will Jeremy pull through?
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2009, 12:13:41 PM »
I just think some of these new people are useless and a awaste of money.

Thats the joys of democracy for you. Especially when we have massive over-representation such as is present here. Bear in mind the average UK parlimentary constituency has a population comparable with Jersey...


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Re: Will Jeremy pull through?
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2009, 01:02:40 PM »
Its the first proper meeting tomorrow.  Firstly they are discussing Woolworth staff (why I have no idea as I thought this had already been rejected) and then they discuss Graham Power (but this is in camera).

So they are going to get tonnes done tomorrow. :-\

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Re: Will Jeremy pull through?
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2009, 08:19:50 AM »
http://www.statesassembly.gov.je/frame.asp  You can judge for yourself if you are happy with how your candidates are voting.

Personally I am more than happy and as far as St Saviour no.1 is concerned as even Rob is so far listening to his electorate -  so far so good. Mike Higgins is also doing well - voting in accordance with his manifesto - apart from Ian Le Marquand who I always said was going to be another establishment man, these new people are sticking to their guns. It's obvious that they aren't going to be able to achieve fantastic things because they are vastly outnumbered but so long as they keep the faith and vote in accordance with their election speeches / manifestos I don't see we can ask for more than that and of course to bring forward their own proposals even though we all know most of these will be doomed to failure but until we get a general election that's bound to happen.

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Re: Will Jeremy pull through?
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2009, 10:50:42 AM »
Thats the joys of democracy for you. Especially when we have massive over-representation such as is present here. Bear in mind the average UK parlimentary constituency has a population comparable with Jersey...



The workload of a parliament is more dependent on what its country expects it to do for them, than how many people are in the country. And Jersey expects everything, except no defence and less foreign affairs, that the UK government does, plus most of what County and Borough councils do, too.  There are not significantly fewer man-hours in scrutinising a 36 page statute customised to govern 100,000 people than there are in a 40 page original statute governing 60,000,000.
 We are actually working our politicians about 12 times as hard as the UK, or at least those not in positions where they can delegate all the hard stuff to their Chief Officers.

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Re: Will Jeremy pull through?
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2009, 11:09:31 AM »
Remember the meeting at the Town Hall tonight re Ann Street car park.

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Re: Will Jeremy pull through?
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2009, 11:19:26 AM »

I agree with much of your view David, but you see over the years meetings have changed. What should happen amongst a committee put any issue on the table you like. The question should be asked where are we trying to get to, what would be the most effective answer.

After a deep discussion, hopefully everyone,( if not a vote is taken) to get us from point A to the majority agreed point B.

No chance these days…….. keep it simple no way…… politicians have agendas set for them, lectures, talks on the economy, power point presentations and at every meeting several civil servants with their own views.

Its time the politicians locked themselves in a committee room, decide on what needs to be done, and then require the administration to take steps to achieve that committee decision.

Use some of Obama's positive attitude, and if there is a problem, the skills of the civil servants can be used to overcome the problem. With the permission of the committee of course.

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