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Offline Ashley

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Re: James Street meeting
« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2009, 02:23:16 AM »
I see Constable Crowcroft has created a bit of a storm on This is Jersey after accusing some posters of being racist after this name change. I think he should of just not said anything. Even complaints on the radio and views on what is politically correct. Opened up a can of worms here but are people racist that object to the remaining of James Street?

It's not even racism. It's Xenophobia. They're not a different race.  If anything - any opposition would be put down to rivalry - in the same way as Scottish people probably wouldn't like their streets renamed with clearly English references.

I personally don't care what they call the road.  I think the fact that they've changed it is pointless and a smack in the face for the people it was intended to impress.  The road is a skid mark on St Helier's underpants. If you were to do a tour of St Helier's streets, it would be one of the very last you'd be prepared to show off.

Who ever came up with the idea is an idiot, in my opinion.  I've also got no doubt that they, and everyone who voted for it, live in a lovely road, far, far away from James Street.

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I've just read his bit on Thisisjersey.  The man is clearly naive and completely out of touch with Jersey people.  He hasn't got a clue about the real Jersey.  If he had he wouldn't have gotten this so wrong.  The same could be said about everyone with a decision to make in Jersey though.
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Re: James Street meeting
« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2009, 05:39:04 AM »
I used to have time for "The Crow". I saw him as a well educated free thinking liberal with an interest in culture. That profile, like it or loath it, is useful in a parliament where the average IQ and grasp of political and economic theory is at best limited. But of late I've started to feel like he's loosing his edge, as if he's grown comfortably into those matching leather habitat sofa's he so keenly displays within his inner sanctum. It's as if he's slowly, by stealth, turning into the very thing he set out to overcome. A comfortably numb constable. This latest missive is all PC'd up to the eye balls and lacks proper research, understanding or committment to the actual needs of the portuguese community living and working in St. Helier. Its also smacks a bit of magic wand waving - there there, you have your street, now run along, we've done our bit.

I asked Rosa in my local corner shop what she thought about the re-naming of James Street. I asked her if it filled her with a sense of belonging or if it made her bristle with civic pride - a fulfilled citizen at one with the society in which she works 12 hours a day, sometimes 7 days a week. She laughed, as she always does at my stupid questions, but admitted she knew nothing of this act of government in the name of her birthplace. But she did ask me this, "Does it mean I get to have a day off to spend with my kids?".
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Re: James Street meeting
« Reply #32 on: August 06, 2009, 08:12:22 AM »
I think this is a PR disaster for him.  If this Island was racist then we would have similar news reports to the Bradford Echo.  I know people from Jersey are subject to banter as well as outsiders and I think thats all it is.

What has happened here is that people have genuinely asked "why change the name of this crappy street?" and because his opinion/decision has been questioned he has moved to the racist argument in order to try and change the subject.
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Re: James Street meeting
« Reply #33 on: August 06, 2009, 08:17:22 AM »
That's probably about right.  Because more questions have been asked than praise has been received, the mentality of the locals has been bought into question - when perhaps the whole idea was a crock of shit in the 1st place.

It could be argued that maybe more people should have turned up to oppose it. But who really, other than the few residents on the street, are going to give up a night for such nonsense.

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Re: James Street meeting
« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2009, 08:21:44 AM »
I am just wondering why they did not actually ask the Madeiran community as to what they think?  Mind you I guess at the end of the day the name change is pretty harmless and it is done now with about 30 votes, but it he should of avoided comment on all this racist argument because it just opens up a bigger argument.

I don't think people of Jersey are racist.

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Re: James Street meeting
« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2009, 01:41:46 PM »
I,m appalled at Crowcroft,s attitude.
If he really wanted to honour our Madeiran friends, why on earth did he choose such a shit-hole of a street to rename.

Why didn,t he propose King St? We have no affinity with any King as far as I know!