Name and shame young offenders?

[Chop Suey]

YOUNG thugs who commit serious assaults should be named and shamed by the courts, according to Deputy Trevor Pitman.

The former youth worker has lodged a proposition to remove the legal bar on naming offenders under the age of 18.

He says that offenders from the age of 12 upwards who commit serious assaults should be named in the media, but that the sentencing courts should continue to have discretion to ban their identification if their offending is affected by learning disabilities, if they are at risk from harm or if there are exceptional circumstances.

Deputy Pitman says that the shock of having their crimes held up for the whole Island to see will deter some young people from further offending.

I am not sure whether this is the right thing to do, I would prefer a child to be helped rather than exposed which could make matters worse, but what do you think?

[Fritz]

I reckon the introduction of the , "Citizens Slap", would save a lot of hassle.

[man in the street]

it is a difficult one, but as ian le marquand had said when he was a judge," they know they are untouchable".
in my day you got a panning from your parents for bad behaviour.

to name the child, may blacklist them as such for the rest of their lives, employment wise and make them a burden on the state.
as not all young offenders, go on to become instatutionalised   repeat offenders.
 to be honest i think the childrens service need a kick up the arse, maybe they are powerless to do much anyway.
some home lifes of young offenders ,are bad to say the least, parents who are ,drunk, drugged, and mentaly ill, or all three.

[Chevalier Blanc]

Do both help them and put their names in the paper so that they can see just what general populion things of them.

[Calimachon]

to name the child, may blacklist them as such for the rest of their lives, employment wise and make them a burden on the state.
as not all young offenders, go on to become instatutionalised   repeat offenders.
 to be honest i think the childrens service need a kick up the arse, maybe they are powerless to do much anyway.
some home lifes of young offenders ,are bad to say the least, parents who are ,drunk, drugged, and mentaly ill, or all three

Not all parents who have children who are rebellious are drunk, drugged and mentally ill.  Far from it.  As a parent very often you  have to play with the hand you are dealt with.  If you have a child that is difficult to rear it is trial and error!  I have one of both types good and not so good?  I used to track their movements and move in if I saw things going awry but there were a lot of outside influences that I had no control over as a parent.  Other parents who did not excercise strict control was a problem for us as a family. I even had an extended famiily member who I found out was showing the youngsters in our family dodgy videos, violence and such like I soon hit that one on the head and  banished them from visiting said 'relative'.  One never knows what is going on and we have to be extremely vigilant and not let our guard down.

Being a parent is not for the faint-hearted!

There are so many conflicting theories about child-rearing and now we have the parenting police!  The kids are lapping it up.  I can remember one of my kids coming home and saying that we were not allowed to hit them.  I can't remember hitting mine anyway even before they came home and said that.  Though I did have a thin green stick, normally used to tie plants to so they keep  up straight in a pot, which  I kept up on the kitchen door frame, out of reach, as a token of what could happen if they were really, really naughty but I never used it.

A family that plays together stays together I think is a great maxim because if you can enjoy your time together you gain respect and then just maybe kids will listen to their parents.  Sadly you can't be a friend sometimes you have to discipline but on the whole a friendly, controlled atmosphere is the best.

But the current trend of bad behaviour can't be allowed to carry on and I fear it may be necessary to name and shame!

[man in the street]

i was talking about the minority,   as usual its the minority that make things bad .
most young people i know , though not complete angels , are just young and having fun.

[Fritz]

Jersey kids are pretty well behaved in comparison to their UK counterparts.
I,m not saying all UK kids are bad, (far from it), but what is considered by some in Jersey as anti-social behaviour is bugger all compared to the real, "Wee Nasties", in the UK.

[Calimachon]

Jersey kids are pretty well behaved in comparison to their UK counterparts.
I,m not saying all UK kids are bad, (far from it), but what is considered by some in Jersey as anti-social behaviour is bugger all compared to the real, "Wee Nasties", in the UK.

We are not in the UK though are we?  All things are relative and I don't want our island to go down the route that the UK is going.  Let us not be led by example let us be the good example.  I don't have the answer to the problem but surely we can get a Think Tank on to the matter and come up with something credible or have we all got our hands tied behind out backs now and have been blindfolded by the politically correct brigade so we have to pussy foot around the problems of unruly child behaviour.  I must point out here that I don't believe in violence of any kind.  So if you don't punish with physical violence you have to resort to nagging the living daylights out of the little darlings.  That costs money because you have to employ extra people who would have to police the little darlings hangouts and nag them into submission.  Examples of nagging:  No loitering here young lady!  No drinking alcohol on the street young man!  What would your mother say if she knew you were doing that there!  ............................a little bit of old-fashioned policing...........falling on deaf ears already.................shame!

[Calimachon]

For goodness sake do we really have to watch you kicking the hell out of your mother each time we post.  Hmm no on second thoughts I think there is an option to turn off avatars.  Am I correct? 

[Dylan]

Do both help them and put their names in the paper so that they can see just what general populion things of them.

What's a populion?

[Chevalier Blanc]

What i want to know is why are there 11 and 12 year old children in King St. asking for fags at 2.30 in the morning and when you refuse to give them a fag the language was terrible. Even when you point out that cctv could be watching and giving a miner a fag is against the law. Just for the record i stopped smoking last November after 54 years on the weed.

[ole razzy]

Just for the record i stopped smoking last November after 54 years on the weed.

You smoked weed for 54 years? Well it explains something but what I cant figure is how you managed to get it through customs the whole time!

[Dundee]

You smoked weed for 54 years? Well it explains something but what I cant figure is how you managed to get it through customs the whole time!

The horse man used a mule!

[Chevalier Blanc]

I came in under a smoke screen.

[iruka]

What i want to know is why are there 11 and 12 year old children in King St. asking for fags at 2.30 in the morning and when you refuse to give them a fag the language was terrible. Even when you point out that cctv could be watching and giving a miner a fag is against the law. Just for the record i stopped smoking last November after 54 years on the weed.

Bloody hell - how will they dig out all that coal if they can't have a cigarette? It seems only fair they should have some pleasure after being down the pit all day.