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[imacrappaud]

I think it is totally wrong that a person should attempt to resolve anyones anonymity, especially by putting their name in posts.

So what if Sparticus has an opinion, there is no need to try and out him or her by putting their real name up, just because some people are willing to post under their own name does not mean that they are the all seeing high and mighty blog betters than people who do it anonymously.

I am really surprised that people here have resorted to attempting to out people for their real names, seems to me you might as well be on the farce blog.

My name is Paul and I am a blogoholic!

[tonytheprof]

Why do people (such as on the Farce blog, but also here) go under pseudonymns?

I would speculate - as opposed to the purely anonymous people - that people like to post under a pseudonym because not only does it conceal who they are in the real world, it also reveals the kind of person they would like to appear as - in this respect, it's rather like a Second Life Avatar, which enables people to escape from their everyday persona and explore aspects of themselves that they might not do if people knew who they were (in Second Life, people often go for aesthetically pleasing body types).

This is reinforced by the kind of picture they might choose - a mighty warrior about to go into battle, an art deco princess, a cartoon sheriff, a footballer raising fists in an celebration of victory over his opponents. There's enough there to keep the analysts busy for decades!

So someone's online opinion might differ from the one they would give if they were attending "Imagine Jersey" and meeting people face to face. It is notoriously easy to SHOUT and be insulting online, even by mischance, as the subtle tones of speech and body language have to be conveyed by the limited medium of words. Irony and sarcasm may be misinterpreted and taken literally.

My own reason for hiding my features is simple - I don't want to be targeted by cranks. My picture is a photoedit of my own genuine features (and glasses) behind a Gandalf beard and hat - a false beard being the single most notable way of distracting attention (as evidenced in countless detective stories). That way I can still see "me", but cranks don't know what I look like - and there  appear to be a lot of them out there (if the Farce blog is anything to go by).

But my name I do not try to hide, although I am ex-directory (no crank phone calls please!). Oh, and "The Prof" was a nickname given to me by a friend back in the 1970s because I appeared to be absent minded, nose stuck in a book, etc.

I'd be interested in knowing others reasons for adopting an online persona, including Spartacus.

[Rob Kent]

@Imacrappaud, "

So what if Sparticus has an opinion, there is no need to try and out him or her by putting their real name up, just because some people are willing to post under their own name does not mean that they are the all seeing high and mighty blog betters than people who do it anonymously."

I have no problem with people using a pseudonym or posting as 'Anonymous'. It's often a good strategy, for the reasons Tony gives. And if I lived in Jersey, I would probably not be posting under my real name.

But when you use your anonymity to insult and smear by innuendo people who are identified, I don't think it is acceptable. In fact, it is morally inferior. The reason I used Spartacus's real name is that for some unknown reason he has variously referred to me a 'knob', a 'muppet', an 'idiot', etc. It's not because he has an opinion that is different to mine - that's what forums are all about, hearing other people's opinions. The fact that we have different opinions on certain subjects is not a justification for him to insult me.

When somebody behaves in the way he does - whatever his motivation and intent - I don't think they have any right to their anonymity because they are not using it defensively (for the reasons Tony gives), but offensively, to cause harm and insult. Given that, I don't see any reason why they should not be unmasked so that people can see them for what they are.

So yes, I would say that people like Rico, who are brave enough to post under their own names and put their words where their face is, are more admirable than anonymous posters who insult and smear them and try to make their life difficult with their employers and others. The latter behaviour is cowardly and reprehensible, which is why I say that the statements and opinions of those anonymous people have less, or no, value. However, when an anonymous poster simply expresses an opinion with a different interpretation of the facts, or has new facts, then they are worth listening to.

There is something about this medium - sitting on your own behind a keyboard getting angry about the world and believing everybody else is wrong - that turns people into monsters.

I'm sure the person in question is not really a nasty person - it's just his chosen avatar.

@Tony, I thought you really looked like that.

[rogueelement]

Highly humourous! Tony the Prof speculating on the use if pseudonyms!
Feck me , pots calling kettles springs to mind ,,,,,,as to Rob Kent ,if the cap fits, wear it matey pips.As to it being your real name , well , we shall have to take your word for that , for all we know it might be Clark Kent or Darth Vader , something else with a V perhaps, Vladimir?
Once again selective commentary excusing previous statements of facts which were not facts at all, hence my annoyance,and even now an unwillingness to let go of the nightmare or accept that it was all complete and utter tosh or at least mainly tosh.
As to my name , Andy Hurley , no problem , I posted under it for long enough and ,as previously explained my wife objected to me being named on the syvretshite blog as a facist , running dog of paedophile apologists and I was , er , urged to stop using it.Quite hilarious in fact since as a mere youth I was a rabid left winger.
My fights with anyone are not over political capital , I simply believe in having the truth and not rumours and in most cases I am willing to wait for that truth to be delivered , not to speculate on it and ruin peoples lives over such speculation.
I am so sorry if you get upset easily , the remedy is in your own hands , stay out of the kitchen if you cannot take the heat.
I am further intrigued that you are so interested in Jersey affairs,why? Reminds me of another muppet who ran off in a huff.

[Dylan]

My fights with anyone are not over political capital , I simply believe in having the truth and not rumours and in most cases I am willing to wait for that truth to be delivered , not to speculate on it and ruin peoples lives over such speculation.

Damned well said sir!

ps you heard it here first!

[tonytheprof]

I am so sorry if you get upset easily , the remedy is in your own hands , stay out of the kitchen if you cannot take the heat.
I am further intrigued that you are so interested in Jersey affairs,why? Reminds me of another muppet who ran off in a huff.

I think there is a difference between as Rob said, arguments, and just name calling. Just hitting at people with names can hurt people, and I've always thought that Stuart calling people "crooks" or "gangsters" doesn't really help matters.

Why shouldn't people outside Jersey take an interest in local affairs anyway? Ex-locals certainly do - there is a thriving Jersey Society in London which has been there for decades. And so does Private Eye!

[rogueelement]

I am entirely sure that many people in many parts of the World have an interest in Jersey , I have heard of such Societies in Australia and various parts of Africa.
I am not at all concerned about Kents' interest in Jersey , but since his interest appears to be concentrated on HDLG then I wonder what his motivation is?
There appears to remain a section of what can only be described as HDLG fundamentalists ,who believe despite the evidence ,that there has been some sort of conspiracy ,I would suggest that Kent is one of those who puts the mental in fundamental
I  have a deep interest in Ugandan affairs and discussions ,but I do not pursue such interest in Public. Aye!
Another thing , just for the mods , naming someone on here is a bannable offence and even though it concerns me little , there may be those of thinner skin who object to such "outings" .
I trust the requisite punishment will be enforced against Kent !

[tonytheprof]

There appears to remain a section of what can only be described as HDLG fundamentalists ,who believe despite the evidence ,that there has been some sort of conspiracy ,I would suggest that Kent is one of those who puts the mental in fundamental

I think there can be a spectrum of conspiracy explanations regarding HDLG, not all of which can be dismissed, but what has happened is that there is a "megaconspiracy" which tends to lump them all together.

An example of what might be considered a small scale conspiracy, or at any rate, what might be counted people conspiring together, would be the timing of the suspension, which may have just coincidentally come when GP was on holiday, but on the other hand it is rational to assume that those involved in the suspension may have decided to take advantage of that to get matters moving while he was away.

The fact that kind of event takes place in different forms across the globe (people being dismissed or a coup d'etat taking place in their absence) means that it is certainly a rational explanation and not a "fundamentalist" one. The preliminary work on the pre-dated letters is also supportive of that.

But I don't think these should be linked to a more global conspiracy theory, in which Senator Le Marquand was set on getting rid of GP. I'd put the endless delays, and the debacle over the disciplinary hearing simply down to the fact that ILM had no experience of conducting a suspension review (and probably should have sought outside help) and the failure of the terms of Wiltshire to specify any deadline (again not a conspiracy, simply a mistake).

[mod5]

Another thing , just for the mods , naming someone on here is a bannable offence and even though it concerns me little , there may be those of thinner skin who object to such "outings" .
I trust the requisite punishment will be enforced against Kent !

Spartacus - your real name was deleted, by me, the moment Rob Kent outed you on this forum. I PM'd Rob and made him aware that this is not in keeping with house rules. This I see as his 'first strike'. If later on however on the same thread you then actually name yourself, quite openly, you make a nonsense of the rules. So what's a Mod to do? You want anonimity - you got it. You want to go public - that's your choice and not a matter for me.

You are all thick skinned, cyber aware, and capable of looking after yourselves. If its gets very nasty I will step in. But if you re-read the last few pages of this this thread you will see that for the first time in months PJ has some lengthy and quite interesting posts. I'm not going to stop that. This forum, if it's to remain relevant, needs robust argument and at times a bit of rough and tumble.

[Dylan]

Ouch! I felt that! Ooey, has Spartacus come out?
 
Have I missed something?

Has something missed me?

Is Sparty now a "Miss"?

Punish the Kent?

Where oh where is this going?

[rogueelement]

Spartacus - your real name was deleted, by me, the moment Rob Kent outed you on this forum. I PM'd Rob and made him aware that this is not in keeping with house rules. This I see as his 'first strike'. If later on however on the same thread you then actually name yourself, quite openly, you make a nonsense of the rules. So what's a Mod to do? You want anonimity - you got it. You want to go public - that's your choice and not a matter for me.

You are all thick skinned, cyber aware, and capable of looking after yourselves. If its gets very nasty I will step in. But if you re-read the last few pages of this this thread you will see that for the first time in months PJ has some lengthy and quite interesting posts. I'm not going to stop that. This forum, if it's to remain relevant, needs robust argument and at times a bit of rough and tumble.

Now of course Mod 5 , you are saying that it is fair enough to "out" people in here , even if it is against the rules so long as it makes interesting reading?
That is entirely incorrect < the rules are the rules are the rules for all to follow otherwise it would be quite fair of me to out yourself     dylan   other mods and batty buoy not to mention rico sorda who has been a long kept secret and tony the daft who has recently been excluded from a hobbit site on account of his lusting for the ring?
ROB KENT APPEARS TO BE  (((FERK))) MY CAP LOCKS HAVE GONE MAD ! no seriously its a machine thing < nothing to do with the BARMY  kent (((hmmmm < if i was  PARANOID  i<d think someone is having a cyber pop!!"
anyway batty buoy the banned (forever i hope) to be fair he was very rude to me on numerous occasions and did have a parking spot somewhere near an ex senators rectum <is otherwise< in real life << should i carry on ??  its hard < but to be fair < he has brought it on himself < is also known as <<< i know i should not < but <<<<yes batty buoy < his real name is >
enormicus butticus >there the truth is out !

[Rob Kent]

In my non-defence, I wasn't aware of that rule. But I will miss you guys - it's been enlightening, to say the least.

Spartacus, you might have 'scaped a whipping' - calm down a bit. That journey from 'rabid left-winger' to rabid-whatever-you-are-now has left you in tatters. It's bad for your blood pressure. You should take your wife's advice and stay off the forums.

[iruka]

Ah... I've missed all this.

Now, where did I put that pot of bile....

Where IS Lenny? How is HIS retirement? Is he planning to offer SS his sofa for a few months I wonder...

[tonytheprof]

I see Spartacus has been filling up on language from Viz magazine!

Enormicus butticus indeed!

[rico sorda]

This Blog did a posting on child abuse and 2 minutes later are attacking an Abuse Victim. I just don't get it none of it makes sense why do that. I read a message last night that nearly had me tears but anger saved the day, the writer of the blog and the person letting the comments through need a reality check.

I wish they would go and have it out with Stuart face to face

I have many comments I don't publish. I have comments about certain individuals on the Farce blog that I don't publish, as the owner of my site I try and keep it above board.

The attacks on Zoompad are out of order. Is there no compassion for what the lady has been through in her life or that when some people have nowhere left to turn and in a bad place they turn to religion for comfort. The owner of the farce blog should have shown a bit of compassion but instead left it open season remember they have just done a posting on Child Abuse.

I can handle the crap thrown a me

But Attacking an Abuse Survivor like that just shocking

rs