Southern at the Centre?

[tonytheprof]

No-one these days is uneducated, everyone has a shot at education.

Then why do people persist in believing that characters in Coronation Street are real?

I think it's because they can't read any more, and head off once the display of (what to them) are hieroglyphics (but really are actor's names) flow up the screen. Mind you, the way the bunch it up for the "next show" clip, you'd need a magnifying glass to see it.

[Dylan]

What's Coronation street?

[tonytheprof]

There is a whole gammit of people within the working class, as portrayed in the skit run by Monty Python's Circus year's ago, with Dudley Moore, Peter Cook and Ronnie Barker, in which the cloth cap type looked up to the blue collar worker and the white collar worker looked down on the blue collar worker.

Cali

Nit picker mode: it was the sketch on the Frost report, usually referred to as the "Class Sketch" and starred John Cleese (upper class), Ronnie Barker (middle class) and Ronnie Corbett (working class)



The two Rons, Corbett and Barker appeared with John Cleese in one of the most famous comedy sketches in British television history , repeated to this day. Cleese, Barker and Corbett are standing in line abreast facing the camera with Cleese (tall, leftmost) representing the Upper Class, Barker (average height, in the middle) representing the Middle Class and Corbett (short, rightmost) representing the Working Class. Each of them relates what they think of the other classes, starting each part "I look down on him" "I look up at him" and what they get out of the class system while turning their head to look at the object of their remark. Corbett got the punchline: "I get a pain in the back of my neck".

[tonytheprof]

If you want a laugh at my expense, go to

http://www.thisisjersey.com/2008/11/27/deputies-elections/37/

where Montford Tadier, myself, and my youngest son recreate the classic Cleese/Barker/Corbett pose for election night!

[Calimachon]

Nah I don't mind if you are in nit picker mode.  It will teach me a lesson to do my research Tony The Prof.  I just guessed it was Monty Python.  All those programmes were so much alike at the time.  'That was the Week That Was', Frost Report', etc, etc.

Cali 

[tonytheprof]

Not forgetting "At Last the 1948 Show" and "Do Not Adjust Your Set", both precursors of Python. The former had  Tim Brooke-Taylor, Graham Chapman, John Cleese, Marty Feldman and Aimi MacDonald. The latter had David Jason, Eric Idle, Terry Jones, Denise Coffey and Michael Palin.

The Four Yorkshireman sketch from the Pythons was a direct word for word nicked piece from "At Last the 1948 Show", but it was written by the actors who went into Python.

[Calimachon]

Not forgetting "At Last the 1948 Show" and "Do Not Adjust Your Set", both precursors of Python. The former had  Tim Brooke-Taylor, Graham Chapman, John Cleese, Marty Feldman and Aimi MacDonald. The latter had David Jason, Eric Idle, Terry Jones, Denise Coffey and Michael Palin.

The Four Yorkshireman sketch from the Pythons was a direct word for word nicked piece from "At Last the 1948 Show", but it was written by the actors who went into Python.

I bow, respectfully, to your higher intellect.  However, I prefer the pic with the wig LOL.

Those were the days those were but there over let them go!

Cali

[tonytheprof]

Maybe we should have a "Four Jerseymen" sketch with four old local codgers bemoaning the "old days"?

It could star:

Terry Le Sueur
Terry Le Main
Helier Clement
The Late Peter Crill

[Dylan]

Good Idea, but in what order? Who's going to dig up Crill?

[tonytheprof]

Mike Vibert? He's into digging nowadays?

[ole razzy]

I'm liking the fact that Dylan's digging his funky threads! Pink tinted John Lennon shades means everything in the garden looks rosy.....even if it ain't. Yeehaa.

As for Peter - the last of an era I'm afraid. We gawn got ourselves a future with a fully paid up and politicised Judiciary. Dem boys gawn got emselves a ticket on mamma's gravy train. Choo Chooo!!!

[Dylan]

Mike Vibert? He's into digging nowadays?

He digs himself in deeper everytime he opens his mouth!

Maybe if he just stood on ole Pete's Grave an started chattin? Would this do it?

[ole razzy]

If one thing can stir Sir Peter and raise him from the grave then a pigeon on speed is it!!

[rogueelement]

SORRY the relevance to most of the above is what in relation to Southern at the centre?
The only place I would put him at the centre of ,would be a good stoning.
Irrelevant, vacuous, deranged , outdated, outmoded and defunct political views ,would certainly provide some fun in Iran!
The JDA are mostly a bunch of inept, would be councilors in Rotherham or some such other depleted area , with zero going on , unemployment at 25% and a deep desire to move on. Jersey for all its' sins is not that place ......yet , Lets revisit the program once TLS has finally Roseed us up.

[tonytheprof]

Well, in its meandering way, the issue of class is relevant because the new constituency that Ted Vibert wants the JDA to head towards is in "the centre". One of those phrases like "Middle Jersey", whatever that is. People nevertheless have a kind of intuition of what those terms mean, and alliances with Unions, and the politics of the left don't normally fit with that idea.

So is Geoff Southern going to do a Neil Kinnock and somehow rebrand himself in a Chariots of Fire film, or will his chariot be stuck in the mire?