Senatorial candidate Ian Le Marquand

[danrok]

Trouble is someone will have to be elected.  Most likely we're going to have to suffer the embarrassment of having Le Sueur as our great leader. 

[moot]

I'd say he's off to a good start, but will the in crowd start using thier own brains when CM Frank Walkers gone ?

One has to be positive and say yes to the question. *****r is a bully and he has created a certain culture amongst his fellow States members, ( perhaps a culture of fear ) When he is gone (and I cannot wait ) old and new States members will perhaps feel free to express themselves more openly and honestly
You can say what you like of Ozouf but he is bright and even he might realise that spin is not the answer to all problems. I would love to see Roy Le Herissier and Crowcroft as Ministers as they will help to bring back some of the respect which sadly has been lost during the Walker years. The playground has now lost its bully ( as far as I can see ) and this can only be good

[The Rev Peter Sarkey]

I was certainly for Senator Le Marquand before the election, I am on the fence now as I am neither a supporter or otherwise. I would like to be a witness to progressive activity and would like to see The Home affairs job in his lap. Perhaps if this wish is made, Senator Le Marquand could sort out the reported (and unreported) differences between the various agencies first and get the "system" working economically and efficiently and prove me wrong. What say you Ian?

[boatyboy]

Senator Ian Le Marquand a man of deep conviction, a man of supposed deep religious beliefs ,a man of high intelligence.

So why is it perceived, that the values he holds so close to his heart, have been lost in his appointment as home affairs Minister ?  Just another example of common sense failing dramatically in a factual verbal statement from Senator Ian Le Marqand ( talk about shooting yourself in the foot). Borrowed from the vile blog and being picked up by a population of well educated, ever expanding user's that is looking to the internet for real unedited stories of truth, fact and of course opinion.

Please also remember Senator Le Marquand's catch phrase's "after taking legal advice"  and  "having been advised "  Make your own minds up people, does the item below impress you ? I listened to the whole broadcast and remember the statement quoted below by ILeM. ( about G.Power wanting to see documents and study them ) and shaking my head in disbelief. I also agree with Stuart Syvret take / view on the delays.

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ILM did not "acquit himself well".

It was one of the most contemptible performances I've ever heard from a Jersey oligarch.

For example - accusing Graham Power of "lying", when Mr. Power has criticised ILM for the delays.

ILM himself - later in the program - expanded upon his point - and described the supposed "delays" caused by Mr. Power - as arising because he kept on "insisting" that he wanted to see documents at each phase - and wanting "time to study them" - and wanting to take "independent advice" upon them.

Really - just how much more disgusting do you want?

Listening - I was struck with the thought of just how tragic it was for Jersey - that people like Ian Le Marquand - I'm quite sure - actually see themselves as "good guys" - that they actually believe their own despicable propaganda.

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The battle goes on to bring integrity and honesty back to our beautiful island.

Boatyboy.

[Fritz]

I dont know where everyone gets the idea that Ian Le Marquand is a religious man?
He is just another, "Alpha Course Mooney".

[moot]

I dont know where everyone gets the idea that Ian Le Marquand is a religious man?
He is just another, "Alpha Course Mooney".

A milk drinking Mr Bean - ( or should it be Has Been ?)

[ole razzy]

I dont know where everyone gets the idea that Ian Le Marquand is a religious man?
He is just another, "Alpha Course Mooney".

If you havent read Michel Houllebecq's 'Platform' I lend you my copy.

[ole razzy]

Its great fun looking back over politicians election promises. www.ianlemarquand.com is one such site. I wanted to check out his campaign message on the issue of tighter political control over the police suspecting that a 'volte face' has occured after reading his recent comments about the need for an independent police authority to act as a buffer between States members and the force. My suspicions were confirmed. But when wading through his manifesto I was intriqued to learn that ILM is all for recruiting senior government officials locally. Go read it all for yourself but here's just an extract.

We are told by the Chief Minister that the present policy is to recruit the best person for each senior post. However, the crucial question is as to how much weight is given in the selection process to local knowledge.

I came into the public sector in Jersey as a Chief Officer in 1990 and it took me about two years to find out how things really worked and I was a local person. In my experience it takes people from outside of the Island about two years to get to the point where they think that they know how things work in Jersey and the next three years finding out that it is actually totally different to that. I also know that when job descriptions are written decisions have to be made as to the level of experience and expertise which is thought to be appropriate for the post.

The current policy, which in practice is leading to the recruiting of many chief and other senior officers from outside the Island, is not right. It is leading to a high turnover of senior staff

We need to give greater weight to local knowledge. We need to identify local people who are potential future chief and senior officers and we need to ensure that they get the appropriate training and experience so they have a good chance of obtaining high posts

Raises some interesting questions doesn't it now that ILM is looking for a new Chief of Police?

[Dylan]

Certainly does Hoss! Except with one enormous problem.

SOJP is in essence a wing of HMGPF which is operated for and on behalf of our highly trusted Honorary Constabulary who are incapable of properly handling anything more serious than a mobile phone infraction or not wearing a shirt in town.

The legal process of appointment for SOJP Chiefs is the same as that of the rest of the UK. EG if we want a replacement, we cannot just appoint one, he has to be qualified for the job and has to come from a National "bank" of Chiefs of Police. This does not say that a local cannot rise to the position of DCO, but if he has any further aspirations, he has to gain experience in the "National" force in the UK before then applying (and possibly failing) to achieve an appointment in Jersey.

Dead man's boots just ain't no good no longer.

ILM would have to obtain permission from the Home Office to change the laws in both Jersey and the UK to enable this to happen.

Do you think he will do this? I don't!

I heard that when he walked into the Cop Shop first time he displayed an inordinate lack of knowledge of the laws surrounding Police procedures. This of course may not be true but it does go a way to explaining some of the trips he has encountered in dealing with matters.

[Dundee]

I may be wrong but I vaguely recall him saying at a hustings that there may or would be certain positions that needed to be filled with someone from outside the Island, that is the normal response.

With 1100 unemployed I wish some other positions were not going to newcomers, something has to be done to improve the slide towards a UK scenario.

I have had a number of jobs most if not all of them are now filled by immigrants now, because they will do the work for less money and poorer conditions.

[ole razzy]

Dead man's boots just ain't no good no longer.

ILM would have to obtain permission from the Home Office to change the laws in both Jersey and the UK to enable this to happen.

Do you think he will do this? I don't!

I didn't know that was the case. Fascinanting. So when on the election trail, whilst making tentative claims to be a suitable candidate for Home Affairs Minister, and whilst advocating a greater control of the police and the appointment of local chief officers do you reckon he knew there was FA he could do about it within his own prospective department? Given what you've said about his understanding of police operational matters it might be safer to assume that he didn't have a scooby.

And I agree with Dundee. The continual slide towards appointing UK 'experts' has been shown to be a flawed strategy. Many stay on longer then the 5 year contract and no succesion planning is put in place. It seems to be a case of once your in your in.

[imacrappaud]

It seems to be a case of once your in your in.

Sounds a bit like working for the states of Jersey in my opinion

[tonytheprof]

"a man of supposed deep religious beliefs"

I'm not really sure what to make of that.

It seems to be a comment that suggests he somehow doesn't care for the plight of abuse victims, or Graham Power having a fair hearing.

Yet in Section B (after the preliminary waffle about Wiltshire's origins), of the press release alongside Wiltshire he mentions the victims of abuse first. True, in Section C (the only bit the JEP printed), they are listed second, after reputation, but as he explained it - and he read Section B in Talkback - in the context of the whole (which it should be), he places their welfare first.

One could ask why Section C doesn't also place the victims first encapsulating the whole, and that could be seen as a misjudgment, based on looking at the whole, and not realising the JEP would take bits out of context. What was it Chris Bright said recently about accredited media - something about fairness and accurate reporting?

When it comes to injustice as regards Graham Power, I think he has been badly treated and not given a right of reply, and I do think Ian must shoulder some of the blame, although Wiltshire's extreme slowness was a major factor, probably because the more time they had, the more fine details they looked at, and I suspect it was overkill. How come auditors have to meet deadlines in an audit? Or firms complying with guidelines of FSC have to meet deadlines?

Auditors could go into more and more detail, but after a given point, anything found will not be representative of the whole, and will not change the overall picture. If the auditor confirms there are no off-balance sheet loans (Enron?), a small theft by an office worker of a couple of biros and paperclips hardly counts. It is theft - but the picture of the company as sound or otherwise is not going to depend on that. Wiltshire's example of two potentially "dodgy" emails from thousands is like that - it's too fine a detail, and they lose sight of the woods for the odd leaf.

However, given the running out of time, for whatever reasons, of a disciplinary hearing, Ian Le Marquand is trying to put as much as he can in the public domain of Wiltshire, and the press release says more to come; it is a shambles, suddenly rushed to get it done before the last States sitting, no doubt so that in September they could vote on David Warcup (who didn't like the delays either because they impacted on him - States members rightly wanting the full picture whatever it was first).

So he sees himself (as he says on Talkback) as doing the best he can under the circumstances. From his position (and I'm just trying to see things through his eyes here), Graham Power has been getting material released into the public domain anyway - ACPO reports, statements about the case, Suspension review minutes - so part of the case has been made, and he's responded, even though both parties should have (in terms of contract) been silent.

I'm not defending him, but in order to see why he's behaved the way he did, one can either adduce all kinds of conspiracy theories, or assume he has acted in what he sees as good faith, and try to his reasons for thinking so. I still don't think Graham Power is getting a fair hearing, and I won't until we can place a much less redacted Wiltshire alongside his "defense" document. I think Ian should be doing that, not Graham.

Aristotle said ""It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." That I think is what we have to try in order to understand Ian Le Marquand's perception where it differs from our own.

[boatyboy]

Quote from Senator Ian Le Marquand, Minister for Home affairs.

Boatyboy. I have missed your last two questions. I am not in a position to formulate an overall financial plan for the Island. I do not currently have the necessary detailed knowledge and expertise and I would never attempt to do something in politics which I did not believe that I could do well.

Part of reply 50 above.

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Fair comment from Senator Ian Le Marquand,  stating that he needs detailed knowledge.

The question that explodes  from this statement, is why the hospital report by  Verita  was published for all to read from cover to cover,  when the home affairs minister ILeM  releases a redacted Wiltshire report of between ten and thirty percent, to a very interested Jersey public ?

To quote Senator Le Marquands own words, " I do not have the necessary detailed knowledge " and then offer a mere 10 to 30 per cent of a report to his fellow politicians or the wider general public, and then, to ask us all to accept his judgement is to put it mildly, very optimistic. 

It is clear Senator Le Marquand needs details but the rest of the world must trust his judgement.

Let us not forget the public are very much  aware, that the police raided a house without a search warrant and removed information much of it possibly written by members of the public to their political representative and was of a confidential nature.

Let us not forget, the Association of Chief Police Officers generally came out in favour of the investigation, run BY G.Power and Harper. Their report is in 4 parts on the vile blogg and others for all to read and is extensive and very detailed.

I apologies to readers of this blog as I said in an earlier posting that the Wiltshire report would never see the light of day. I was wrong,

The Wiltshire report has seen the light of day as it lays their, feeling frustrated and unloved as a glimmer of light squeezes in from behind the blinds, and at  the moment not feeling at all well or fit for purpose, which is to bring justice, transparency and closure which  in today's society, cannot  be at all possible without a full right of reply.

Boatyboy.

[Fritz]

And your point is?